| this Week in Wayfarers:
* keen, new West Coast Wayfarer hopes to bring W's together * welcome to Dave McDonald and Leslie Catling, new owners of W8230 in Stratford, ON * lots of good advice as Gary Hirsch and Tony Krauss start to restore W1321 and W276 * Les Hall, our friend and Wayfarer-to-be from Texas has checked in a few times this summer * W603 mystery solved * blasts from the past, courtesy of Gord Leachman * a mini-update from Jean Trottier in Manitoba * |
| Subject: keen, new West Coast
Wayfarer hopes to bring W's together -----
Original Message -----
From:
Nick
Parker
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: West Coast
Dear Al,
I write in the hope that you
might be able to shed some light on the situation out here on the West
Coast. I am not a racer nor am I aware of any Wayfarers that race
out here in Lotus land. In fact, part of the challenge is
finding Wayfarers - racing or cruising that might
reside this side of the Rockies.
My idea is to do something for
the Wayfarer class as it turns 50 years old in 2008. I am also
sad to see that all of the "whiffle" news is central and east, with
little reference the west. I would like to address the
unintentional imbalance and see whether there might be some interest
out here on the coast of banding together and offering our coast
as a gathering spot for others.
Recognizing that the Wayfarer
class is all but dead on the coast reference racing, I am still
somewhat surprised that few seem to see the virtues of the boat as a
cruiser especially on the West Coast with the Gulf Islands and the
Inside passage so close at hand. However, my sleuthing has
managed to find about ten boats and skippers that are scattered around
the Strait of Georgia. I have also managed to connect with two
individuals that are interested in the idea of getting together...as
one said we could rendezvous in the middle of the Strait - miles
out! We do it all the time but many are not interested in
crossing from Vancouver to the Island.
So, I write in the hope that you
may have some contacts out here on the coast or some past history with
owners. You might also point me in the right direction, if you
think my idea has merit.
Though I have been a sailor for
most of my 53 years, I have only recently come to the Wayfarer class by
purchasing an old woody, # 982. I gather it was built
in Southampton and eventually campaigned in Canada and then
sold. I purchased it off of Hugh Johnson who had it for a
good 30 years or more. Needless
to say, I would love to see the class get
some recreational sea time, as I have a hunch that
most of the boats rarely hit the water.
Oh well, I am an optimist and so
live in hope that perhaps somehow a few will endeavour to get together
and then perhaps we can have a rally out West !
Cheers,
Nick Parker
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Al Schonborn
To: Nick Parker
Cc: Rebecca Robson W6280 ; Dick Harrington W887 ; Tim
Koontz W2253 ; Dave & Carol Hansman W282 ; Gerry Warren ; Alan
Asselstine W7346 ; Derwyn Hughes W4615 ; graham and danna
white W2968
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:35 AM
Hi, Nick:
How lovely to hear from
such an enthusiast!! Perhaps you'd care to take over the post of Fleet
Captain for BC which has been vacant since Gerry Warren (copied)
stepped down a few years back? It saddens me that we rarely hear from
any of our western Wayfarers. I know that there is at least one club
in the Vancouver area where there is (was?) a small fleet of
W's - in Surrey??? I've forgotten the name of the club but have copied
Dave Hansman who found these guys on one of his numerous mining
business-related trips. Have also copied USWA Pacific NW rep, Tim
Koontz, plus USWA Cruising guru, Dick Harrington, who will be happy to
hear Rally thoughts from out west. Graham and Danna White (copied in
Seattle?!!) were really enthusiastic for some time but I've heard
nothing from them lately. Ditto Rebecca Robson who came all the way
east for the 2004 Worlds with her charter yacht skipper boyfriend. They
kept in touch with some fine reports of one of their big boat cruises
which I faithfully published in the Weekly Whiffle which
starts its Fall season a week from tomorrow and which will include your
letter. Perhaps that will bring some western W's out of the woodwork?
Do stay in touch and I
will happily give western W's all the publicity and coverage you might
desire. Hugh Johnson (W982), the name and number ring a bell but I
can't remember why at the moment. Do enjoy your Wayfarer and good luck
in your organizational endeavours. Oh, and of course, a very happy
Thanksgiving to you!!
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
PS: We are hoping to
put together a 2008 "50 years of Wayfarer" international wall calendar
within the next month or so which we hope to mail out in time for
Christmas to all Class members in the Wayfarer world.
PPS: I have copied the
CWA Exec and Fleet Captains to keep them informed. Membership Sec., Kit
Wallace, will be happy to sign you up for membership in the CWA, the
first year of which is free to new W owners like yourself. Do send him
your particulars.
Must rush - 100's of
racing pics to edit!!!
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Nick
Parker
To: Al Schonborn
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:39 PM
Dear Al,
Thank you for the reply -
my apologies for taking so long to get back to you.
I have managed to come up with a
few Wayfarers in Lotus land. - not many, but about 12 -15.
There are likely others hiding and so the sleuthing begins!
I would be happy to be the
Canadian West Coast Rep if you need one, so just let me know what I am
supposed to do and I will get on with it. I am not sure what
I can bring to the table other than enthusiasm and the like, but am
willing to give it a try. As for rounding up other boats, I have
heard from Hans Gottschling who says he will send along some names of
individuals that he has heard of over the years in the hope that I
might be able to catch up with them.
There is a "raid" out here on
the coast once a year that is entering its 3rd or 4th
year. It is organized by the head of the Silva Bay
Boat School on Gabriola Island. There was one Wayfarer involved
in this years event #616. I met up with them in Port Townsend and
they ask me to join in next year. That would make two Wayfarers -
Critical Mass!!
If your are interested, I can
send a picture of my Wayfarer with off of Vancouver for a
potential calendar shot from the West Coast so as to prove that we do
exist out here.
Cheers for now,
Nick
-----
Original Message -----
From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:33 AM
As promised, here are a couple of pour pictures of my Wayfarer "Tiddley" #982 anchored off of Hollyburn Sailing Club at Ambleside Beach with the Lions Gate Bridge in the background. ![]() ![]() Stanley Park is on the right and you are looking into Vancouver Harbour from English Bay. Proof that there is at least one floating and active Wayfarer on the West Coast! Cheers, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca> To: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Pacific NW Wayfarers Hi, Nick: Thanks for the update. I expect to post our correspondence as a Pacific NW update in the 29 Oct 07 Weekly Whiffle. Meanwhile, I have given you the front page of the Whiffle Web and will keep the fingers crossed that this helps bring W's out of the woodwork. I have also added you to our Fleet Captains list but will need your address and phone # to complete the listing. For next week (or even sooner) a little mug shot of yourself for me to post would help by putting a face to the name. Must rush. Regatta pics to post!! Keep up the good work!! Best regards, Uncle Al (W3854) -----
Original Message -----
From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:19 PM
No need to reply to this email as I know you are on the fly. My information follows, but will have to send a picture with another email in a few days. Home: Nick Parker, 2172 Riverside Drive, North Vancouver, BC V7H 1V7
Ph: 604.929.9741 Cell: 604.323.3117
Work: The Rev. N. Parker, Senior Port Chaplain, Mission to Seafarers, 401 East Waterfront Rd., Vancouver, BC
Ph: 604-253-4421 Fax: 604.253.0874
Cheers, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca> To: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca> Cc: "Hans Gottschling W938" <hansg@gottschlingboatcovers.com> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:46 PM Thanks, Nick. Will copy this info to our Fleet Co-ordinator, Hans Gottschling, so that he can update his records. Port Chaplain - that must be interesting work or should I be saying vocation? Take care, Uncle Al (W3854) -----
Original Message -----
From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:54 PM
NJP - Nice Jolly Parson? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca> To: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:19 PM NJP sounds excellent to me, Nick!! Jolly is always to my taste. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca> To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:49 PM Al, Recognizing that you have much to do, I hate to ask a few questions as I am likely not on your agenda; nonetheless, I would like some guidance. The previous owner of #982 said that the boat was brought out from England and raced. The original owner then sold it to mystery person #1 who then sold it to either mystery person #2 or Hugh Johnston, whom I bought it off of. Being built in Southampton and raced (internationally), one might assume that my Wayfarer was measured and licensed to legally race at one point in its career. Hugh never received any documentation from person #1 or #2. Would there be any archival records in Toronto? Or should I email the British Secretary in the off chance that there is a measurement certificate against the boat's number, which would avoid me having the boat re-measured if I wish to campaign it? I think the boat would be legal, as I would like to leave my options open. Any hints? Many thanks Nick P.S. response on your time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca> To: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca> Cc: "Sarah Burgess" <sarah.burgess@wayfarer.org.uk>; "Dave & Carol Hansman W282" ; "Bill Fyfe W937" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:11 PM Hi, Nick: I wouldn't worry too much about a certificate, though I will copy Dave and Bill, one of whom should have a list of CWA boats with certificates. Also copied is UKWA Sec., Sarah Burgess, who may have access to a similar list of UKWA boats. Be that as it may, few people worry about certifs until you reach a high standing in the Nationals, etc., or unless your boat is visibly "out of class". Even then, we have reached a point where people are so happy to have another boat to race with, that anomalies might well be tolerated - except perhaps motors!!??? Still, it's great to see someone so keen to do the right thing! Let me know how it turns out!! Uncle Al (W3854) -----
Original Message -----
From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:34 PM
class. I spent six years on National Committees in Toronto that often gathered in Oakville at the "Sisters." I also used to be a very young member of St. Jude's Anglican Church in 1959. I also remember the Oakville breakwater and walking it while holding my father's hand as a little boy. My father is/was a Col. in the Signals Reg. We lived in the PMQs. Not so many years ago, I also wandered around the sailing club, down by the River. I wonder if that is where you sail from? By the way, it is getting late out your way, you should be off to bed. I am tired and I'm three hours behind you! Have a good night. Nick -----
Original Message -----
From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:34 AM
Al, Here are some very poor pictures. If they are not good enough let me know and I will try to get some others for you. The pictures were taken late at night and hence location was problematic. Besides, Vancouver is in the midst of getting another 45mm of rain - it comes with it being a weekend! Cheers, Nick -----
Original Message -----
From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
To: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:28 AM
![]() Talk to you soon, Uncle Al (W3854) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca> To: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:09 PM Hi again, Nick: Just putting all our Pacific NW stuff into Monday's Weekly Whiffle and realize I never responded to much of vour last note about growing up in Oakville. Isn't it a small world that you should have grown up in the lovely town of Oakville?! I'm happy you have good memories from here - as I do as well. Julia (my wife) and I often go for walks either by Oakville harbour or Bronte harbour (3 miles to the west) where I used to teach Junior Sailing for 12 years or so (1969 to early 80's). I actually keep W3854 in our garage and she rarely sees Oakville harbour, since most weekends, we go away to regattas (North Bay, Michigan, western Ontario, Chesapeake Bay, etc. - and in Feb. to the Midwinters in Florida). Do keep us posted. Perhaps with a list of the W's you are unearthing? Best regards, Uncle Al (W3854) PS: have dragged the Weekly Whiffle of 18 Oct 04 off the
2005 W Yearbook CD and reposted it at http://www.wayfarer-canada.org/00Weekly.Whiffle/041018/WW041018.html for
easy reference.
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Original Message -----
From: "Nick Parker" <njparker@shaw.ca>
To: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:59 AM
Your two emails where very interesting. The pictures of Hugh and the 982 Wayfarer are great. Hugh is likely the most travelled Wayfarer on the coast, having made numerous trips up and down the coast. One even made it into Pacific Yachting back in the 80s. He is still in great shape and is often at the club. Dave Simpson is also a club member... Actually, there are four Wayfarers at Hollyburn, one of which is up for sale - a fiberglass with a wood deck. I have not seen any of the other three boats sale this past summer. In fact, I am not sure that they have been on the water in years? I also went over to Jericho Sailing Club, on the other side of English Bay and discovered a few more Wayfarers in their yard. Unfortunately, I was not able to get in to see them. The challenge is that people buy a membership, get yard access for their boats and then leave permanently! I think storage is the hobby, not sailing! Cheers, Nick other responses: -----
Original Message -----
From:
DC Hansman
Cc: 'Dick Harrington W887' ;
'Tim Koontz W2253'
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:18 AM
Hello Nick and Al: My first contact with west coast Wayfarers was with the very same Hugh Johnston and W982. I did a short “Weekly Whiffle” article that appeared in the 18 October 2004 edition which talked of their sailing club in Hugh had a fellow Wayfarer with whom he had cruised. His name is Dave Simpson (from the As for other Ws in the area, I did find two boats at the Jericho Beach Sailing Club, one of which had an up-to-date club membership sticker on the transom (as of 2006). That boat appears to be in good shape although it was hard to tell how much it was actually sailed. I noted that there were also some CL16s there, too, so that could expand your opportunities for finding a like-minded sailor. As you may know, CL16s are very closely “related”. My son lives in Kitsilano but he does not have a Wayfarer. He has sailed, and even raced, with me in the past. He is one of the reasons I find to get to Best regards, Dave Hansman ![]() W282 in action ... and from the USWA's Pacific NW Rep: -----
Original Message -----
From:
Sue, Tim, and Maggie Koontz
To: Al Schonborn
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:42 PM
Thanks for keeping me in the
loop. My life is just kind of full right now and sailing
has the back seat. New science classes I am teaching, 3 year old
daughter, garden, big family and new baby on the way in mid october has
kept me fully occupied. I still see a day in the future when the
Wayfarer hits the water again though. My 3-year-old is really
learning how to swim well. I emailed Nick to let him know I am
interested but kind of occupied right now! Thanks for keeping the
Wayfarer ideals going!
Sincerely,
tim
koontz
... and tales of tough times from our Wayfarer enthusiasts in Seattle: -----
Original Message -----
From: "graham and danna" <g.dwhite@verizon.net>
To: <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: Seattle
calling
Last time you heard from us was 2 years ago when we were just off to England to see our grandkids. Well, we did go, and during our stay we were involved in a very nasty head-on collision. I was in the passenger seat and ducked under the dashboard and braced myself for the impact. I got away with bruising and a bleeding nose. Danna, however, was not so lucky and the force of the impact broke her sternum as well as badly bruising her ribs, legs and feet. The car flipped over a couple of times and ended up on its wheels ( luckily ) in a nearby field. It could have been worse. A helicopter and 2 ambulances ferried everyone to York hospital. Danna had to stay in a few days. The female driver of the other car also broke her sternum. She actually was to blame, although the roads were greasy for some reason. It was a freak violent downpour and she lost control coming round a corner ahead of us. The police did not press charges because of the road conditions but she and her insurance company took responsibility for the accident. Not that we have heard much from them! When we finally returned to the Pacific NW, it was impossible to think of sailing, and so I took to bicycling. Danna has taken a long time to recover; it is a very slow process. She has massages and chiro almost every week and is definitely on the mend, but sailing was definitely out again this year, so more cycling! I am hoping that next year she will be well enough to cope with the sometimes unpredictable and violent movements which are a part of sailing. Launch and recovery also requires strength and suppleness. If there are any other Wayfarers out here, we would definitely like to team up next year. I would feel more confident if there was another boat nearby. Graham http://mysite.verizon.net/res0kbtc/webpage1/index1.htm http://seattlecaricaturist.com |
| Subject: welcome to Dave McDonald and
Leslie Catling, new owners of W8230 in Stratford,
ON -----
Original Message -----
From: "DAVID MCDONALD"
To: <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:35 PM
Subject: New
Owners for W8230
Greetings, from Dave & Leslie. We met you at the Pumpkin Regatta at Fanshawe a few weeks back. We really enjoyed seeing the racing, and realize we still need to upgrade a few things on our boat before next spring. We've just started our research on the web site. We can't wait for spring launch. Talk to you again soon. Dave. Dave McDonald Leslie Catling W8230 -----
Original Message -----
From: "DAVID MCDONALD"
To: Kit Wallace
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:21 AM
My wife and I were down at Fanshawe's Pumpkin Regatta last weekend enjoying watching some racing, ran into Uncle Al who said to drop you a line. We bought a previously loved Wayfarer sail number 8230 this spring and are enjoying it immensely. Already we would like to get into racing, but after checking out some of the rigging changes required for competition, we can see we've got some work ahead of us. Anyway we'd love to join the association. Cheers, Dave McDonald W#8230 Leslie Catling Stratford, Ontario -----
Original Message -----
From: "Al Schonborn" <uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca>
To: "DAVID MCDONALD"
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:29 AM
Welcome again to Wayfarers! Dave Hansman and I enjoyed talking with you at the Pumpkin - too bad I had already "farmed" the camera out, or we could have gotten some pictures of you for web coverage of the Pumpkin . It's great to see people who are keen and raring to go. Just what our group needs!! If you enjoyed watching Saturday's racing, you must be really keen, Saturday having provided the worst quality winds we've had to sail in, that I can remember. Still, we all survived and did have fun. Do stay in touch and feel free to ask any questions that may arise as you work on your upgrades for 2008! Best wishes for happy sailing, Uncle Al (W3854) PS: If you'd like to talk sailing and meet some of the gang with no racing to distract the attention, let me recommend our Annual General Meeting and Party at the Toronto Sailing & Canoe Club Sat 19 Jan 2008: meeting at 6 PM, dinner at 7:30 PM. You will be more than welcome!! Details to follow in early December at http://www.wayfarer-canada.org/00coming.up/001ComingupIndex.html. |
| Subject:
lots of good advice as Gary Hirsch and Tony Krauss start to restore
W1321 and W276 ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Hirsch <ghirsch@sbcglobal.net> To: Richard Harrington <rmharrington@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:03:59 PM Subject: Beefing up a woodie Wayfarer Dick,
I have my boat in the garage now and am getting serious about getting her fitted out properly. Jiffy reefing, cockpit mainsheet, adjustable outhaul, boom vang improvements, new gaskets on buoyancy tanks, foredeck improvements, etc.
My question relates to getting the hull epoxied. I plan to turn her over and do some work to the bottom. In one email, Uncle Al suggested putting fiberglass strips along the chines and fair them in. I thought I would take her down to bare wood and epoxy the entire hull. Do you recommend adding a layer of cloth fabric or just a few coats of epoxy? If you use cloth, does it take a lot of fairing compound to hide the fabric from showing through the final paint job?
As I contemplate the best way to seal her up a bit, I would appreciate your wisdom.
Gary Hirsch (W1321) -----
Original Message -----
From:
Richard Harrington
Cc: Tom Erickson ; Dave Hansman ; Charles Jordan ;
Tony Krauss ; Frank Pedersen ; Jim Phoenix ; Brian Ritchie ; Don
Schaffner ; Al Schonborn ; Earl Schnur W1028 ; Kit Wallace
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:27 PM
Greetings,
Gary:
I've
added to the 'cc' eleven woody owners that I can think of at
the moment. The only important person not included is Hans
Gottschling who is very knowledgeable but never answers his
email. You will have to phone him (check with Uncle Al
for his number). I know that I've
probably overlooked at least one or two other woody
owners. Those of you on the 'cc' are cordially invited to
respond to this request by Gary Hirsch.
As
a mater of information to everyone let me inform you that we have two
people, Gary Hirsch and Tony Krauss who are currently refurbishing old
woodies, plus a third, Frank Pedersen, who is finishing up a kit
previously started by someone else. Both Tony and Frank reside in
the Chesapeake area while Gary lives in Michigan.
Now
I must confess, Gary, you are probably going to get variety
of opinions. Don't let that bother you--the more information
regarding people's experiences the better for you to decide. Your
goal should be to do the best job you can within the limits of your
time and abilities, knowing fully that there probably is no way you can
do the "perfect" job.
Discussing
how best to beef up an old woody is a large topic. So for a start
I'm only going to address your first question regarding applying
fiberglass tape at the chines. Also, to say I
strongly recommend doing something about the CB trunk setting and that
you should consider filleting extensively all frames, stringers,
etc. on the inside. You should also be aware
that the deck joints will become a problem area, the deck
being fastened down only with bronze boat nails.
Regarding
the chines. I think Al may have mentioned to you that David
Hansman extracted all the original brass screws and replaced them with
SS which he set in epoxy. When I refurbished my boat all I
did was tighten all the screws and then fill the heads with the low
density epoxy filler. I haven't encountered any problems but
if I were doing the job today I would likely do as Dave did. It
is a little extra work but good insurance. Applying glass tape on
the outside along the chines will certainly add strength, but I
agree with you about the concerned of trying to fair
everything out smooth to look good. Current techniques for
plywood boat construction often call for applying an outside abrasion
layer of cloth, but I think this is a different type of cloth and it is
applied uniformly on the whole surface of the hull. Without
further knowledge from others I would be inclined to rely upon the
filleting on the inside of the hull for strength and fore go the
tape. Hans may be able to shed more light upon this topic.
You
need a good barrier of epoxy on the outside so you should roll on at
least four coats of epoxy. If you plan the process properly this
can be done all in one step, thus avoiding having to scrub off the
blush between coats. You will need to do some sanding to get a
smooth finish.
I strongly
recommend obtaining the West System manuals for wooden boat restoration
and construction as well as subscribing to Wooden
Boat magazine. You really need to have a handle on the
current techniques and technology regarding using epoxy.
Best
wishes............DICK
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Original Message -----
From:
Don Schaffner (W613)
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:48 AM
I've restored several wood boats but only one Wayfarer
(#613). Thought should be given as to glassing wood boats with West
System. If you try to seal the complete boat with the west System,
you'll still get a few spots where water will soak into the wood. Once
it gets in, it'll swell and it can't get back out. You'll trap in the
water and it'll rot. Use standard paint or varnish on one side of the
wood so that drying can occur. Just my thoughts.
My woody (W613) was like new when I restored her so
strength was not a real concern but I did add epoxy fillets on each
stringer. They have held up fine.
With each on my wood boats I put a handful of salt (the pet store carries ocean salt for fish tanks) in the bottom of the boat. The rain water dissolves the salt and the wood won't rot (at least it hasn't yet). It's fresh water that causes rot. Since I live in So. CA, we don't get much rain so rot is not a big concern here. I worry about fire. Don Schaffner W613 ![]() PS: I have my nice wood Wayfarer in dry storage at this lake
in my town in So. CA. I've considered sinking her in shallow water
until it's over.
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Original Message -----
From: "Jim Phoenix"
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:59 AM
There's an excellent case to be made for not epoxying or glassing at all, just tighten up any loose bits and fair them in with low-density filler. You won't have any problems with that. Downside to epoxy and fiberglass is the added weight - lighter the better in my opinion. 8017, my recent refinish job, had just the plain wood hull, only ten years old, but is in excellent condition, no glass, epoxy - just paint... and didn't leak a drop. My 2¢ worth. Jim www.jimphoenix.com When I
restored W1037 I stripped the paint down to bare wood and epoxied the
outer hull, without much consideration for the state of the original
fixings. If I was to do the job again, I would certainly recommend
epoxying in the screws as Dave Hansman has done. What I found is that 3
or 4 years later, some of the screw head filler, particularly in the
bow area which takes the brunt of pounding wave action, was showing
through the paint finish. I think Hans
Gottschling (hansg@gottschlingboatcovers.com,
phone 905-277-3306) )would certainly recommend paying attention to the
centerboard case. He typically removes the entire case to re-seal it
and check for rot. I didn’t in my restoration, thinking the outer
coating of epoxy would cure any leaking at the centerboard case/keel.
For the first two years this worked, but sure enough, water started
finding its way in at the joint between the case and the hog after the
stresses of the centerboard on the case caused the joints to start
opening. I solved this problem, with some difficulty, from within the
1” wide centerboard slot, by routing out a groove on each side of the
case where the plywood bottom panel is sandwiched between the hog and
keel. This groove was then filled with thickened epoxy and covered with
a layer of glass tape. So far the repair has held up well. With respect
to reinforcing the chines with glass tape – I wouldn’t do it, unless
the boat is going to be beached a lot, or is showing signs of rot at
the chine. I did this once to another cottage dinghy I own, recessing
the thickness of the tape and epoxy into the plywood core. It’s a hell
of a lot of work to do it properly, and the resultant taped joint is
never totally invisible or as sharp edged as the original wood. Regards,
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Original Message -----
From:
Richard Harrington
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:20 PM
GARY,
With regard to the CB trunk, I did essentially the
same as Kit did inside the slot. However, on the advice of a
guy who had worked on several Fireballs, I glassed over
the inside as well. I put large fillets at all the sharp
corners then ran three layers of glass tape (starting with a
narrow tape and increasing the width with each successive
layer) from near the top of the CB case hogs down over the
keelson and onto the bottom panels. This made the whole assembly
very rigid so that there hasn't been any flexing that could
break the glass seal on the inside.
One mistake I made was getting the inside of the CB
slot too tight. (I had also reinforced the CB itself which
made it thicker.) It took a lot of work filing the inside
of the slot before the board no longer wanted to jam. Also,
the fiberglass inside the slot creates a small lip which is a favorite
place for sand and pebbles to lodge.
DICK
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| Les Hall, our friend and Wayfarer-to-be from Texas has
checked in a few times this summer -----
Original Message -----
From:
Les Hall
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:44 AM
Subject: pictures
Hi Al,
We planted wildflowers last November and have enjoyed them
so much that the entire front yard will get a dose this fall.
Les
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Original Message -----
From:
Al Schonborn
To: Les Hall
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:49 AM
Hi, Les:
Hope you've had a good
summer and are continuing to fight the good health fight. I trust you
are now ready to do your second wildflower planting??? Thanks for the
lovely photos - I'll bet you guys really enjoy the place which looks
very pretty.
As you've no doubt seen
from time to time, it's been a busy sailing summer and a lot of fun.
Hope to edit the last of my regatta pics today, then begin to trot out
5000+ captions to get the web site up to date in time to put everything
onto a DVD Wayfarer Yearbook for 2007.
More emails to come as
this is the Weekly Whiffle in which I'm determined to catch
up with you. You'll be part of an interesting batch of goodies.
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
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Original Message -----
From:
Les Hall
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: Why
dogs attack their owners
Les
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Original Message -----
From:
Les Hall
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:41 AM
Subject: three pictures
Best Regards,
Les
Great stuff, Les!
Perfect antidote for a gray Fall day!
Uncle Al (W3854)
![]() Borabora, east ![]() Robertson Isle, Opua NZ ![]() Savusavu, Fiji -----
Original Message -----
From:
Les Hall
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Al,
check it out
go to www.efcmusic.com,
select video, select pick me up
Tell me those boys aren't having fun, one of the girls on
stage is a professional belly dancer.
Our son, Dustin, is the drummer.
Les
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| Subject: blasts from the past,
courtesy of Gord Leachman -----
Original Message -----
From:
Gord Leachman
To: Al Schonborn
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: oldies
... the attached are interesting
web downloads about Wayfarers - clippings from a 1961 newspaper.
Gord.
(Al's note: The Fisherrow YC, which this year celebrated its 50th anniversary, is in Musselburgh on the outskirts of Edinburgh) ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: a
mini-update from Jean Trottier in Manitoba -----
Original Message -----
From:
Jean Trottier
To: 'Al Schonborn'
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:26 PM
Hello Al.
Jean Trottier |
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