Monday, January 21st, 2008
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| this Week in Wayfarers:
* NOR now posted for Clark Lake's 2008 Tim Dowling Memorial Regatta September 20-21 * Mk I or Mk III? that is the question! * Lake of the Woods cruise log by Andrew Haill voted top log of 2007 * Hansmans' long-distance acceptance speech for Don Davis Memorial Trophy * W613 goes Hollywood * |
| Subject: NOR now posted for Clark
Lake's 2008 Tim Dowling Memorial
Regatta September 20-21 -----
Original Message -----
From:
Neil
Robb
To:
'Al Schonborn'
Sent:
Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject:
Dowling Invitational
Al,
The Notice of Race has been updated for 2008. Could you put a link to it at http://www.clarklakeyachtclub.org/CLYCDowlingInvitation.pdf Thanks, Neil |
| Subject: Mk I or Mk III? that is the question! -----
Original Message -----
From:
Rudy Galasso
Sent:
Monday, January 14, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject:
MK I or Mk III?
I'm considering purchasing a Wayfarer and am a little confused about the info I'm getting on the MK I and MK III. I was told by one of the sellers of a MK I that in a capsize, the MK III is more difficult to get under way due to the boat being unstable because of the sealed floor preventing water from flowing to the bottom of the boat. Please comment on the differences, and if you were in my shoes, what would you go for - the new or the old? I'm just wondering if this boat will be too much for someone of age 66, this is the only boat in our club that is sailed by one person that lends itself to cruising and racing. Thanks! Rudy Galasso -----
Original Message -----
From:
Al Schonborn
To:
Rudy Galasso
Cc:
Ken Jensen (W1348) ; Dick Harrington W887
Sent:
Monday, January 14, 2008 3:02 PM
Hi, Rudy:
I was just thinking
that 66 is pretty damn old ... until I remembered that that
is my age ... and I am
certainly not old!!! Having said that, it is difficult if not
impossible to haul the W out on a dolly (as opposed to towing it
out of the water with a car) for any one person. Sailing the boat
singlehanded is by no means overly difficult (I have copied our #1
cruiser, Dick Harrington, who sails solo all the time and is certainly
older than 66. I hope he'll have some words of advice for you). There
is no doubt that the Mark III is a tougher boat to self-rescue after a
capsize: you might want to check out my synopsis of the
various Marks and my stuff on safe sailing and self-rescue
that I have posted in the Wayfarer
Institute of Technology (WIT) where I would recommend the first
three articles under "Useful Sailing Skills
of All Kinds" and also, under "Cruising &
Daysailing Skills", the articles about shortening sail
(especially the W trysail recommended by Ken Jensen [also copied] who
is 80+ and still goes out sailing and fishing on Oslo Fjord (Norway) 40
to 50 days per year). In any case, with proper caution
exercised and a medium amount of sailing experience, it is easy to
avoid capsizing a Wayfarer. Still, I myself would go for a Mark I as
the best all-around cruising W. Hope this will get you started. BTW,
where do you sail?
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
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Original Message -----
From:
Rudy
Sent:
Monday, January 14, 2008 6:15 PM
Thanks for the help. I didn't know all that info was available. I will be sailing at the Lake Eustis Sailing Club. There are three older boats which I assume are MK I's built in 1972 - 1978 and two Mk IIIs built in 2000 and 2002. I do like the newer boats but I like to sail more than just club races and need to be able to self rescue, accidents do happen. BTW, where do you sail? Rudy Galasso -----
Original Message -----
From:
Al Schonborn
To:
Rudy G.
Cc:
Dotty and Mike Murto
Sent:
Monday, January 14, 2008 8:43 PM
Hi, Rudy:
Small world! I'll be
sailing in the Wayfarer Midwinters at the LESC in just under a month. I
am copying Mike Murto (W2959) who can be an invaluable local
resource person to you as you go W shopping.
Regarding your choice,
why not go for the newer boats (Mark III's)? (But please, not before my
W pals have the chance to borrow them for the Feb 8 -10 Midwinters!!!!)
If by "cruising" you mean day sails on Lake Eustis, many of the Mk I
advantages (below-floorboard storage of supplies for longer
cruises [several days], dry floor for sleeping on, no oil drum effect
in big waves) do no apply. Ease of self-rescue is not the Wayfarer's
strongest point, even in a Mk I. If the accident you mention should
happen and you want to be prepared, you might invest in masthead
buoyancy to keep the boat from turning turtle (mast down), and keep a
set of flares handy for a worst-case scenario.
Mike will be able to
tell you what kind of squalls you can expect on Lake Eustis, and with
due caution exercised, there should be minimal risk of a capsize if you
are not pushing the boat by racing. You should be able to sail in
almost anything Lake Eustis can throw at you by flying only the genoa
used as a trysail (see http://www.wayfarer-international.org/WIT/useful_skills_of_all_kinds/Reefing/Wtrysail.html).
Last year, we were doing just under 4 knots (according to my new
hand-held GPS) under jib alone on Chesapeake Bay, so that if you're in
any doubt about there being too much wind, you could opt for the
trysail, still be perfectly mobile, and reduce your capsize risk to
virtually nil - not counting tornados or hurricanes, I suppose.
Do keep me posted.
Perhaps we'll meet at the Midwinters where you'd be most welcome to be
a guest, and where someone might well wish to snap you up as a crew so
that you could get a feel for the boat.
Hope to see you at the
Mids! Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
PS: I can't resist
inserting this pic of Marc and me sailing off the LESC a couple years
back in our W3854 - as the other extreme from the trysail:
 Just realized I never
told you that I live in Oakville on Lake Ontario, just west of Toronto
but sail my W - which lives in my garage - all over the place. I'm
officially a member of the Toronto Sailing & Canoe Club but am also
privileged to be an honorary member of the LESC.
... and from our old salt, Dick Harrington: -----
Original Message -----
From:
Richard Harrington
To:
Rudy Galasso
Cc:
Ken Jensen (W1348) ; Tom Graefe
Sent:
Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:32 PM
Rudy,
It's not a matter of age but more your physical condition and health. Even a much younger person needs to know how to sail the boat, position himself properly, and be able to reduce sail in a blow. On the other hand, being older and having already enjoyed a full life maybe the consequences of capsizing and drowning are less than for the younger guy. Having said that (it's a joke), most of us agree that trying to recover a Mark III from a capsize (it quickly inverts) is more difficult that a Mark I. But the very best boat in this respect is a Woody. This is all kind of moot, I think. In the rough waters of an open sea an older man (or woman) sailing single handed unless in exceptional physical condition has small chance of recovering from a capsize. In cold waters such as Maine, Lake Superior, etc.-----well forget about it. (Last year Ken Jensen, renowned Norwegian cruiser, recounted his experience recovering from a capsize in the Oslo Fjord (he sails a Mark I) and I was totally amazed. It was near shore and the seas could not have been large.) The Mark I has the advantage of more stowage space. However, you need to be sure that these compartments are actually watertight. They rarely are - even when the owners make a conscious effort to keep the hatch seals in good condition. A lot of the Mark I's are getting really old and beat up. It should be easier to find an Abbott Mark III that is in better shape. We have several folks here in NA cruising Mark III's - Tom Graefe and Jim Fraser (I also think Andrew Haill who cruises on Lake Superior has a Mark III). They've heard all the pros & cons and remain satisfied with what they are sailing. Do you actually plan to do cruising? Where? What is your prior sailing experience? DICK |
| Subject:
Lake of the Woods cruise log by Andrew Haill voted
top log of 2007 -----
Original Message -----
From:
Alan Asselstine
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:05 PM
Subject: Ted
Davis Trophy
Sorry for the delay, but I found Uncle Al's and Andrew"s logs both worthy of the trophy and got some help from Tim and Dick. The decision is to award the 2007 Ted Davis Trophy to Andrew Haill for his Lake of the Woods Cruise log. The combination of descriptions, charts and pictures conveyed the adventure, challenges and rewards of cruising in a single boat without prior experience of the lake. Alan Asselstine W7346 CWA Cruising Secretary -----
Original Message -----
From:
Al Schonborn
To:
Andrew Haill W9657
Cc:
Alastair Ryder-T W10137
Sent:
Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:16 PM
Subject:
Ted Davis is in the right
hands already
Hi, Andrew:
No need to worry about the hand-over fo the
Ted Davis Trophy. Let me be the first to congratulate you on your
repeat as the winner of the Ted Davis Memorial Trophy - see email from
Alan. In my view, the committee made the perfect choice: your log is
outstanding and a joy to read. Do keep those logs coming!!
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
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| Subject: Hansmans' long-distance acceptance speech for Don
Davis Memorial Trophy -----
Original Message -----
From:
Hansman, Dave
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:13 AM
Subject:
Don Davis Memorial Trophy
2007
Al:
It is late Saturday evening here in Perth, Western Australia. Being some 14 hours ahead of you gives me a full day well in front of the folks back home, but it also allows me to think about the AGM which, by this time in your day, will be over. I had the chance to do sailing today (Saturday 19 January), and that chance came in the form of a 3.5 hour race run out of the Royal Perth Yacht Club – host and home of the America's Cup defense by Australia II. I was adopted by a skipper who needed a trimmer – and darned if we didn’t win our division! The sailors here are like the rest we encounter – serious on the race course, beer loving and fun afterwards. That got me to thinking about the CWA and sailing in general. It cuts across international borders. There are fantastic people involved everywhere. For the most part, people are there to have fun. What else can a person ask for! Although, for obvious reasons, Carol and I cannot attend the AGM, please be aware that we are grateful to be thought of in a manner worthy of people receiving the Don Davis Memorial Trophy. We simply want to have fun and it is our hope that we have been able to help other people have the same opportunity for comradeship and pure enjoyment that we have had in Wayfaring. When I look at the criteria that says “outstanding service to the Canadian Wayfarers over the course of many years”, I am somewhat embarrassed. Although we have owned a Wayfarer for over 18 years it has only been relatively recently that we have really stuck our hand in it. There are so many deserving people that surely must come before us. Please accept our thanks to all of them for making it possible for us to even be involved with such a great bunch of people. Best regards to all, Dave and Carol Hansman Ps: I would appreciate it if you could read this to everyone at the meeting. Pps: The attached photo shows the city of Perth in the background to the harbor at RPYC (more info to follow when I am not so tired)  |
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