
| this Week in Wayfarers: * anyone interested in doing this year's Tip of the Mitt with Robert Mosher (W3445)??? * Has anyone seen Uncle Al's spare tiller???? * some observations by our excellent Midwinters champion, Trevor Fisher * Warm Water's gracious hosts move regatta to June 9-10 to resolve Rock Hall conflict * another country heard from * catching up with Ken - part 1 |
| Subject: anyone interested in doing this year's Tip of the Mitt
with Robert Mosher (W3445)???
From: robertmosher1@comcast.net
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Monday, February 13, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject:
Tip of the Mitt 2012
Dear
Al:
I am considering sailing the Tip of the Mitt this year. I am wondering if anyone else is interested in doing this 300-mile event. It starts June 23, 2012 and ends when you reach the finish line. ![]() The following Saturday June 30 starts the four days of Racing near North Bay. So I want to finish on Friday if possible, and head to North Bay. This would require sailing trough at least one night. Would you please post this for me, as I am looking for someone to join me in this attempt. RobertW3445 From:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 2:30 PM
Hi, Robert:
Sounds like a fine
idea!! I would volunteer myself but I am a bit like Gary insofar as I
cannot imagine any Tip of the Mitt being anywhere near as
flawless for me as our first one was last summer. It was the perfect
mix of adventure and benign conditions!!
So I will put your
request onto the front page of the Whiffle Web when I post
today's resumption of the Weekly Whiffle. Please do keep me
posted.
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
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| Subject: Has
anyone seen Uncle Al's spare tiller????
From:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 2:49 PM
Subject:
Has anyone seen Uncle Al's spare tiller?
Missing:
Al's tiller!
I
believe I loand a lovely wood tiller (without extension) to someone in
2011 but can't recall to whom. If you have it, please let me know.
Thanks.
Best regards,
Uncle
Al (W3854)
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......2012 Wayfarer Midwinters some observations by our winner, Trevor Fisher a work in progress: updated 20 Feb 12 |
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From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:50 AM
Subject:
Thanks
Hi Al,
Richard has just forwarded me some more
pics - thanks!
I just wanted to say thank you again, to
you and everyone else in the Wayfarer Class and at the sailing club in
Eustis who made the event so good and in particular, to Richard
Watterson for putting up with me in the back of his nice new Mark
4! Without exception, the North American Wayfarer fleet are a
pretty special group of people.
I am pretty poor at speaking off the cuff,
but really meant all I said at the prizegiving. Like you, I have
sailed at a few events around the place and without doubt, the
Midwinters was one of the most well organised, enjoyable events I have
ever sailed at. Richard Johnson summed it up by saying 'boats,
beer and friends'!
The racing was spectacularly well run, with
no waiting around, good courses, good starts, no unnecessary
postponements or mark changes etc etc..... The folk in the club
- the Lingemans, the Murtos, Andy Douma and the MC Scow folks
and others were all very welcoming and made the event what it is.
I repeat my invitation to all to come to
Ireland. We have space in the house, access to loads of sailing
kit, boats, etc, so all you will need to bring is yourself!
If I don't manage to come across for the
next Midwinters, I will definitely see you all (at the Worlds) in
Toronto, but hopefully some of you will manage to get to this side of
the Atlantic before then!
And, it was great to finally meet you!
Thanks again,
Trevor
From: Al Schonborn
[mailto:uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 13 February 2012 22:58 To: Trevor Fisher W8848 Hi, Trevor:
Finally got home last
night, after Marc and I decided we would go home a day early and pass
on the LESC club races. Thanks for the lovely letter which I am asking
you to let me post on our CWA site - and I would also like to copy (in
the next instalment) the various people you thank/praise. BTW, in
my not all that humble opinion, your off-the-cuff speech was excellent.
Progress is being made
on the pics editing front for Mids coverage and I hope to do the
results posting as well as a partial report tonight. Meanwhile, I can't
wait to try out my newly learned techniques at the northern regattas
and I have another question for you: Do you sail small shifty lakes at
all? If so, does your flat at all costs philosophy apply there as well?
Now back to Mids work.
Thanks for the invite to Ireland though I do very much hope that we'll
see you at the 2013 Mids and even the 2012 DM (Danish Nats) in late
August.
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
PS: Did you like the
pic of you and Bubbles first to the windward mark alone in
the dark skies? I thought it was great and asked Richard to send it in
case you didn't have it.
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Al Schonborn
To:
Trevor Fisher
Cc:
Butch Minson ; Trevor Fisher W8848 ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict
W2415 ; Scott Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ;
Richard Johnson W10139 ; Richard Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter
Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc
Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim &
Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC
; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913 ; Al Schonborn W3854 ; Dave & Joan
Williams
Sent:
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:37 PM
Subject:
Re: Thanks
Hi again, Trevor - and
all those I have copied:
Great stuff, Trevor,
which inspired me to rush out into the web and buy the two books you
recommended - see below:
Delivery
estimate: Feb 21 2012 - Mar 7 2012
Will respond/comment in
green below, but first have to admit I cannot find the coaching
materials I thought I had copied from your computer. If I give you the
secret code to my site FTP, can you (re)send those to me?
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:51 AM
Hi Al,
By all means copy what I
wrote - I am sure I have left out some important people (you could add
Scott Tilema and the Flying Scot folks to my list!), but it is
through my forgetfulness rather than a deliberate snub! I have
written something for Linda Heffernan and passed it on to her for
Skimmer, I also wrote a
short piece for Yachts and Yachthing, the main dinghy magazine in
the UK. I did use one of the pics that I copied from you - I hope
that is ok? One of my (many!) hobby horses over here is the lack
of coverage of the Wayfarer class in the UK and the failure to blow our
own trumpet. There was never any mention of Richard and Mark
going to the North Americans, for example... lovely report, Trevor - one
that I have promptly "stolen" for the Whiffle Web as part of
our Mids coverage (so that it will appear on our 2012 CWA Yearbook DVD
where the link won't necessarily be enough)
I do sail 'flat at all
costs' except when heeling the boat to steer (bearing off etc) and when
the wind is really light and I need to heel the boat slightly to keep
the boom to leeward. I could send a brief page with my thoughts
on this if you want? What I said to a few folks (and what I
think) is that it doesnt matter what we do in the boats to be more
comfortable / faster / more efficient / happier......but we need to be
able to justify it to ourselves. This can apply to rig tension,
sheeting angles, adjustable bridles, mast chocks (think Mike Mac and
Ian Porter!), sailing flat or pretty much anything else....... If
we can reason and justify things for ourselves, we will be happier and
more confident, sailing in a better frame of mind will be better than
doing sometihng that we cant reason in our own head. I couldn't agree more, Trevor!!
Sailing flat at all costs
gives the biggest projected aerofoil / sail area possible, gives us an
ideal hull shape and does not result in any force increasing
displacement. There is an arguement that heeling gives a hull
shape that tends to 'squeeze' the boat to windward, but I dont
agree. To get to this shape, we are creating a bigger bow
wave, requiring more energy, and there is quite a big force from the
sails towards the sea, increasing displacement..........Its easier to
explain in diagrams, which I can do if you want!. definitely a new trick that
this old dog will try this summer - still trying to figure out how this
will affect my shift-playing on the very small lakes
I may get to the midwinters
next year, but it is unlikely that I will make the Danish
Nationals.....getting Denmark from ireland is very expensive,
especially in August. I will be in France in July, at a wedding
with my family, so even suggesting Denmark to my wife wouldnt go down
well! Rats!!
looks like we won't meet again then until 2013 :( speaking
of which, after Mids coverage is done, I will set up the 2013 Worlds
site which will start with a poll about course preferences and # of
races desired - Marc Bennett and I decided that our committee should
let each timely entry vote on these questions: e.g. 7 or 9 races in 5
days of racing? courses: all sausages, all Olympic triangles or 50/50?
There are a lot of really
good photos - I am sure I have the one you mention somewhere, but
havent had time to go through all of the pics. have copied said pic (above)
into my on-line version of this e-mail exchange
All the best, Trevor
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From:
richard watterson
To:
Al Schonborn
Cc:
Trevor Fisher ; Butch Minson ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ;
Scott Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Johnson W10139 ; Richard
Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864
; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff
; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty
and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913 ;
Dave & Joan Williams
Sent:
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:14 PM
I feel compelled to correct Trevor. Far from "putting up with him..", it was a great experience to sail with him. "Putting up with him.." amounted to him solving in a quick and efficient way the various problems that come up like blocks coming unscrewed from shackle and falling into the floor, spinnaker halyard twisted hopelessly on the forestay and the countless times that I was looking forward obsessing about all the wrong things but he was in the back of the boat handling things while I dawdled. It was as much his ability to stay unruffled and calm as anything else that contributed to our success. Trevor is a great guy and we are lucky to have had his company during midwinters. Richard w |
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From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Cc:
richard watterson
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 6:06 AM
Subject:
Mids pics postings
Hi Al,
The pics look great on the
website......it's always good to look through pics of events and I
will certainly be pulling some out for a coaching evening I will be
doing in the club here in March!
Richard and I seemed to
sail with a lot of bend in our mast (which was more than I wanted but
probably suited the windy conditions on in the first 6 races!) -
have a look at pic 110s and pic w on the same page -
way more bend than anyone else! We did put some chocks in, but
didnt have enough, Richard and I spoke about using a bit of scrap wood
to fill the space, but decided against it. At least the mast was
not overbent (which would show if there were big creases
from the spreaders down to the clew) and the mainsail set
well. I did sail with quite a lot of vang, especially on day 1,
so that would explain some of the bend, although there are pics where
there is not enough vang, such as pic g on Friday
Race 2.3 - way too much twist in the sail and top batten nowhere
near parallel to the boom. The top tell tale would definitely
have been streaming here! I also had the jib sheet travellers set
as far back as possible - this happened by mistake: they were set about
4 or 5 notches forward, I tried to adjust one and it slipped all
the way to the back of the track. This seemed to be fast,
and we pointed higher, so we left it here for the rest of the
event!
Our mast was raked quite
far forward, probably about as far forward as it should be, so if we
had decided to rake it back a bit, we would have needed to move the jib
travellers forward to maintain the same leech tension on the jib.
We may have gone a bit better upwind with the mast raked back slightly,
but would have lost out downwind. I am not so good downwind, so
the balance was probably about right.
I dont see many pics of me
sailing a boat, so am happy to see that the boat is reasonably flat
most of the time (but there are lots of examples when I dont keep the
boat flat, some at key moments like bearing off at the windward mark - ha and hb
- definitley not as good as Marc / Julie and you / Tony in o and p
on the same page - but a bit better than Nick and Peter, 111y!)
Regards,
Trevor
From:
Al Schonborn
To:
Trevor Fisher
Cc:
Butch Minson ; Trevor Fisher W8848 ; Tony
Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ; Scott
Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ; Richard
Johnson W10139 ; Richard Hartley W Copyright
Holder ; Peter
Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary
Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc
Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman
W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan
W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ; Denis
Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913
; Al Schonborn W3854 ; Dave &
Joan Williams
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject:
Re: Mids pics postings
Hi, Trevor:
What a treat it is to
have someone really putting my efforts in the pics posting dept to good
use. Don't have much time today since today is Weekly Whiffle
day (after a three-week break!) and I want to include your observations
in this issue.
Just a couple of points
for discussion therefore:
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All for now. Best
regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Cc:
Butch Minson ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ; Scott Tillema
MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ; Richard Johnson W10139
; Richard Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ; Nick
Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc Bennnett W10861
; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan
W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ;
Andy Douma W9913 ; Dave & Joan Williams
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 11:49 AM
Hi, Al,
Our boom was high, as the
mast was raked quite far forward - right on the limit of what is
recommended (I cant remember the exact distance - 23' 9''?). We
were also using Richard's Evolution Sails which may be cut slightly
differently to other sails. However the forward mast rake will
have the effect of making the boom appear higher. I used
quite a lot of vang in the wondy weather, but probably not as much as I
would use in my own boat, with a smaller crew.
I agree with what you say
about jib leech tension - this is where the streamers on the leech are
really useful. If you think of it crudely, when the mast is raked
forward, it has the same effect as moving the jib traveller forward,
effectively increasing the 'pull' on the leech, for the same amount of
sheet tension applied by the crew. Raking the mast back has the
opposite effect - effectively reducing the 'pull' on the leech, and
requiring the crew to pull the jib in more to obtain the same jib
tension. Mike Mac explains leech tension really well, in the boat
park and makes the point that 1 inch on the sheet has a huge effect on
the shape of the jib. Richard was making the same point, while we
were sailing, and did play about with the sheet tension.
I look forward to the
latest Whiffle!
Trevor
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| Subject: another country
- the Netherlands - heard from On 20-2-2012 2:08, Al Schonborn wrote: No, Ton. Your address for Dick is perfect. Try again - copy me if you like and I can send it on to Dick as well - just to make sure??? Good to hear from you, Ton. Hope all is well with you and the family!! Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
From:
Ton
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:55 PM
To answer your question, life could be better, after being blown off the lake, two races ago, see here: Last race someone decided to throw hardener in the lake and we had to sail on ice. Here is what we made of it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=378458122179842&set=pu.328884983803823&type=1&theater I have also attached some pictures of the race and the committee, providing us with "koek en zopie" Cake and hot chocolate and also gluhwein and smoked sausages. Later that afternoon we had a nice cup of hot pea soup in the clubhouse to warm up. At the end of the day it turned out to be a pretty nice "race" with friends any and family. I am trying to get something on the road for our silver wedding anniversary. Obviously we should have gone to the Mid Winters! Why didn't anyone point that out to me? Maybe the same person could also have hinted to me a bit earlier, would have been better for my marital relation..... I have offered Paris, Rome and even Lyon (Paul Bocuse), I went on my knees and she said, after a long cliffhanger, "Brugge". Now I have to settle for Geert van Hecke, Gert de Mangeleer or Sergio Herman, the life of a sailor is tough.... Best wishes, Ton ![]() ![]() ![]() From:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 9:58 PM
Wow, Ton. You guys sure
get outdoors more than I do. Nice photos!! And regarding the Picasa
pics from 22 Jan 12, I can only say:
"Better them than me.
I'm too old for this. Come to think of it, I have always been
too old for that!"
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
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| Subject: catching
up with Ken - part 1 From:
KEN-Krist. H. Jensen
To:
Ralph M. Roberts
Sent:
Friday, December 23, 2011 7:34 AM
Hi Ralph
!
Thanks for your mail and good wishes that we indeed return with happiness: Merry Christmas+Happy New Year! I know
well and respect your stand on the W-trysail, but can
just hope you will encourage W-people to try it out on your
behalf, and report back! I have been happy to get
reports from Canada and the, USA (most enthusiastic with a Jib as
W-trysail, and even before we tried that out!), UK and
Scandinavia - over the past few years.
La-iad's
brother of only 45 was taken to Hospital with a bleeding ulcer, which
is why I have become a 4-Door Diesel SUV-driver - just imagine
LEFT-hand Drive (well, Right hand for You on test grounds!) in
Thailand!! For a old Right-hander and very old man, and the
(bloody) window's viper handle does not give the
turning-signal! Whereas the normal position of the
wiper-handle does! I don't even want - too scary - to mention the
traffic here in Bangkok! Our plan was for 'The golden Triangle'
with two sailing friends, Danish+Thai.
![]() Re.
photo: La-iad's small cabin is to the left behind the banana trees
and high enough to avoid flooding. Forward right of SUV is the family
poled house, also no problem there, but her Mother's more modern
kitchen at ground level had 50 cm of 'nam', which is water(points to
Viet-nam another watery place !).
All the
best - looking forward to meet! Ken t.o.W1348"Maitken".
From:
KEN-Krist. H. Jensen
To:
Graham Manning
Cc:
Uncle Al Schönborn ; Wnews Ray Scragg
Sent:
Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:02 AM
Subject:
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year !
Hi Graham &
Kate, W3220
Thanks for your mail, and my Norwegian Address will no longer do! I trust mentioning moving back to Dragør, DEN, where we came from in 1971, now 2 years and 2,5 months ago. My address there - in case you pass during the summer half - is a 90 sqm apartment five minutes on bicycle from W1348"Maitken": Rosenengen 5.st/4, DK 2791 Dragør, Denmark. Soon it will be 40 years since forming the WIC being celebrated by sailing W48"Wanderer" down the Thames from beyond Putney Bridge with skipper, Frank Dye, and Margaret, Don Davis and I as crew. You, Graham, and your dear old Mother, who wanted you to speak the Norfolk accent (has a more royal, sober sound, she confided to me) stood on Tower Bridge freezing and waving at us as we passed under the bridge to immediately turn back and land by the Traitor's Gate. The Dyes had planned - while the tide turned - a visit to The Castle of London to check out the Royal Treasures and the stoutness of the Beefeaters. As we climbed up and over the seawall, three guys, coming from the PUB, I am sure, stopped dead in their tracks looking at us in awe! One said aloud: "By bloody Golly, guys, we better start running home, if it's going to be the kind of weather these awkward persons are dressed for!" It was cold, humid and chilly, but we were dressed for it. On the way down the river, shooting all the bridges, good Don Davis had remarked: "Not really a problem. The water is so cold you''ll come up like a Polaris Rocket!" A much talked about item in those days! We in W48"Wanderer", along with Copyright Holder Friends, Ian Proctor and Gordon Pollard and other UKWA friends had been a bit nervous the night before, wondering if the UKWA AGM would accept the idea of a WIC. Well, Graham and Kate, you were there, and Margaret Dye introduced us, Mait the two youngest boys and me, to you, and quite clearly I remember you Kate as a lovely young woman, as old Dick Notley put it straight to Mait at their first meeting: "My, my - You are a real 'smasher'!" You maybe will find this on Uncle Al's *Whiffle* some day http://www.wayfarer-canada.org/ a weekly W-News setup that I really like(and supply !). Every Monday in the 'Farang'(Westener) world, but Far East - being quite a bit ahead of you people we are in bed - so Tuesday here. Happy W-New Year
with many lovely morning rises in good health! Ken,
W1348"Maitken"
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